June 7th, 2006


userinfo senji
2006/06/07 13:03:00 - In Merlin's words…

If you had a choice between the ability to detect a falsehood and the ability to discover truth, which one would you take?

Detect falsehood
14(22.6%)
Discover Truth
48(77.4%)

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userinfo ankaret
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2006/06/07 12:14:51
I'll take detecting falsehood; I suspect discovering truth would lumber me with far too many of other peoples' secrets.
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userinfo enismirdal
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2006/06/07 12:25:13
Truth? I'm not sure I can handle the truth sometimes.

Admittedly, as much as it might be useful at times to know when I'm being lied to, once again there are also times when I'd probably prefer not to know.
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userinfo ewx
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2006/06/07 12:27:01
Doesn't the latter effectively imply the former?
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userinfo simont
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2006/06/07 12:40:42
I thought that. Assuming "detect falsehood" means "know when someone talking to me is lying" whereas "discover truth" means "find out whatever I happen to want to know about", the latter is a strict superset of the former and hence clearly the more useful ability.

"Detect falsehood" might also be caught out by situations in which the person talking to me believes what they say (or indeed believes what they're saying the opposite of) but is incorrect in this belief, depending on how it's implemented. "Discover truth" will be able to tell me what the person believes if I ask it to, but more usefully still it can tell me what the real facts are.
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userinfo cartesiandaemon
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2006/06/07 12:58:34
It made sense to me intuitively, and I tried to understand why. I think it might be that people's idea of detecting falsehood is instantaneous, but discovering truth might take concentration, so you can use discovering truth to tell when people are lying to you but it's not feasible to do so constantly.
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userinfo senji
2006/06/07 14:49:58 - Mmm, want multiparenting for comments... :)
http://senji.livejournal.com/319085.html?thread=1326189&style=mine
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userinfo senji
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2006/06/07 14:48:38
Merlin continues:
There was a time when I thought they were different ways of saying the same thing, but I no longer believe that. Most of my relatives, for example, are almost as good at seeing through subterfuge as they are at perpetrating it. I'm not at all sure, though, that they care much about truth. On the other hand, I'd always felt there was something noble, special, and honorable about seeking truth—a thing I'd attempted with Ghostwheel. Mandor had made me wonder, though. Had this made me a sucker for truth's opposite?
— Zelazny's Sign of Chaos

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userinfo edith_the_hutt
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2006/06/07 13:17:18 -
"You want the truth? I can't remember the truth!
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