January 18th, 2005


userinfo senji
2005/01/18 12:33:00 - Hmm...
Assuming you have a piece of universally interesting news∗ and a gossip network† what distribution approaches are there that:
  • minimise the amount of time T80 that it takes 80% of the target audience to learn the news

  • maximise the eventual penetration of the news into the population P(informed)

  • minimise the maximum or mean number of redundant notifications that are received. Rmax, Rmean

that is: all people wish to hear it once, and all people are willing to redistribute it.
like LiveJournal, or more generically the Blogging Network.
Current Mood: [mood icon] curious
Entry Tags: lj, meta, question

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userinfo cartesiandaemon
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2005/01/18 12:56:43
Ooh, good question. What would be good is a facility to include someone else's post in your journal. So, say I think all my friends should read this one, I click a button, and then your post appears on the friendlist of everyone who's friended me. Then there's no duplication at all, and eventually everyone sees the original post.

If we're not allowed technological solutions... What people *do* is post if the news has appeared on their flist (only) once, more or less. That mightn't be such a bad idea. It does heavily depend on flist overlap.
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userinfo geekette8
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2005/01/18 13:05:06
What would be good is a facility to include someone else's post in your journal. So, say I think all my friends should read this one, I click a button, and then your post appears on the friendlist of everyone who's friended me.

The problem with that is that there might be people on your friends list with whom the original poster does not wish to share the news....
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userinfo cartesiandaemon
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2005/01/18 13:10:11
I thought the assumption was that it was universally relevent news, like "Tsunami alert!" If it was something private, people would be no more likely to share innapropriately that way than they do now by typing "Hey, gakked from Senji, copy and paste"
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userinfo geekette8
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2005/01/18 13:27:09
OK, fair point. :-)
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userinfo kaet
2005/01/18 14:19:20
Though there's a kind of plausible repudiation in claiming cut-and-paste. There's kind of the suspicion that the other person might not have said it, or that the editing was creative, or such like, particularly if there's animosity around the hiding. If it was somehow supported by the mechanism of lj, you wouldn't have that, it'd be more like "evidence" than gossip.

One thing would be to have a new kind of post status, (a news post, "publishable" post?) where the original poster can elect to allow this thing to happen to their post. I guess that they could do this retrospecitvly too.

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userinfo cartesiandaemon
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2005/01/18 14:22:37
OK, good point, you wouldn't want someone to be able to republish a friendsonly post. For *news*, you might as well make it public, and allow public posts to be republished; they're rarely secret.

I guess you might want a 'repubishable' type of post for gossip, where you're happy for it to spread, but don't want to make it so ANYONE can see it.
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userinfo naath
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2005/01/18 18:11:20
In which case it ought be protected so that only their friends can see it in the first place and it ought to be such that the protection remains with the post. Public posts can in any case be viewed by anyone with or without an LJ...
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userinfo geekette8
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2005/01/18 13:04:05
Would you count it as missing the point somewhat if I answered "provide a subscription based service where people could sign up to receive news related to this topic, and you could post your piece of news so that everyone who had subscribed to that interest would see it on their friends page"?

Gosh, just like paidmembers and the recent announcment of free extension to paid time, in fact :-)
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userinfo senji
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2005/01/18 13:31:39
*grins*.

See my earlier rant entitled Does anyone have the number of a good Directory Enquiries service?

Incidently, yes, it was the paid time extension thing that brought the question to mind; but that's not the only example that there's been recently. Often you also have the problem that you hadn't realised that a kind of announcement might ever be needed until one occurs.
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userinfo kaet
2005/01/18 14:21:03
lj interests can be quite good for this. I've added a few friends in the past on the basis of those (if they also seem like people I would like). The good news is that it only takes one or two discoveries to find a whole new island of people with similar interests.

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