July 12th, 2004


userinfo senji
2004/07/12 15:02:00 - [Poll] Hmm...
Currently this entry is sitting at the top of my Recent Entries page; due to being dated 2032.

Should I...

...ignore this.
6(19.4%)
...delete the entry.
0(0.0%)
...redate the entry (silently)
0(0.0%)
...redate the entry (and note the fact)
3(9.7%)
...tickybox
6(19.4%)

Current Mood: [mood icon] curious

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userinfo simont
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2004/07/12 07:09:31
It's interesting that you need to redate it at all. When you post an entry, LJ notes the time of posting, and friends pages are sorted by this as opposed to sorting by the display date you explicitly send in the posting protocol. This ensures that no matter how much your local clock is out by, friends pages still come up in a vaguely sensible order, and also ensure that deliberate postdating isn't an attack on all the people who have friended you.

However, it looks as if your own "Recent Entries" page goes by the user-invented apparent date rather than the official time of posting. And the calendar honours your made-up dates as well (look at your own Archive page! :-). With hindsight I suppose this isn't too unreasonable - certainly the last thing you want is LJ imposing its own time zone on the dates of things you post, or you'd get confused when looking for your own past posts. But it's surprising at first; I'd have expected the friends view and the recent-entries view to be basically alternative subsets of the same data, and the revelation that it's possible to have two entries whose relative order is different between the two views is rather odd!

I'd re-date the entry to reflect the genuine time of posting, and note it if you like (I'm not sure it matters much).
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userinfo lnr
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2004/07/12 07:28:21
I certainly wouldn't have wanted all my old backdated entries from 1989-1997 to have appeared on my recent entries page in the order I posted, rather than in date order!

What does the "backdate this entry" tickybox do on forward-dated posts?
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userinfo simont
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2004/07/12 07:32:07
The backdate flag simply excludes an entry completely from friends-page views!

It will appear in any your-journal-only view in the normal way, sorted (as discussed above) by the visible date field. But it will be completely absent in friends-page views, even if you only backdate it by a few hours so that it theoretically falls within the current horizon of a given friends page.

I suppose that if you need friends pages to be immune to deliberate-dating attacks, this must end up as the only sensible way to allow backdated entries at all.
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userinfo senji
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2004/07/12 07:34:27
Actually, that's not quite true.

A backdated entry won't be considered for the "are you posting this entry with a date earlier than the previous entry" test; on either side. So, when I posted the entry just after the 2032 one I briefly backdated the 2032 one so that I could post it.
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userinfo chess
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2004/07/12 15:57:19
Personally, I think it looks pretty cool there.
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