September 2nd, 2004


userinfo senji
2004/09/02 13:15:00 - And we've been living in an imaginary world
A while back someone suggested making a map of Europe with fictional countries on it; so I'm attempting to make a list of such....

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userinfo rjw76
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2004/09/02 05:25:37
Corquidicolandia!
(see the Visiting Dignitary assassins games in 2002 and 2003)
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userinfo sion_a
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2004/09/02 05:52:07
Tintin looks like it might be a rich source from my scant knowledge. I'll give you Syldavia, which I only know about because someone's analysed the language but there are hints of neighbouring (Balkan) states.

Ruritania has to be a given. The Grand Duchy of Fenwick probably should be too.

And I'm embarrassed to be able to suggest Moldavia as appearing in Dynasty, not to be confused with the more recently recreated real country of the same name.
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userinfo megaleena
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2004/09/02 05:56:38
Yay! You got Belsornia!!!
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userinfo simont
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2004/09/02 05:59:04
You remembered Tintin, but missed Syldavia (and its neighbour Borduria)?

Yes Minister contains two fictional countries: Qumran in the Middle East ("The Moral Dimension"), and Buranda in Africa ("The Official Visit").

"The Dogs of War" by Frederick Forsyth is about a small fictional African country called Zangaro.

I have a nagging feeling that there's at least one other I ought to have remembered, but it's eluding me right now...

Syldavia, incidentally, has a Wikipedia entry, with a not-yet-written link to an entry on fictional European countries in general. Perhaps once you finish your list, you should write that entry...
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userinfo ceb
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2004/09/02 06:03:12
Can you remember what the country in Tiger's Railway is called? (or whether it's named?)
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userinfo simont
2004/09/02 06:07:09
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userinfo senji
2004/09/02 06:11:28
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userinfo timeplease
2004/09/02 06:28:07
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userinfo simont
2004/09/02 06:46:15
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userinfo senji
2004/09/02 06:59:26
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userinfo simont
2004/09/02 07:02:44
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userinfo senji
2004/09/02 07:09:46
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userinfo teleute
2004/09/02 13:39:06
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userinfo ceb
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2004/09/02 06:02:14
Orsinia, location unclear but probably somewhere in Eastern Europe (le Guin).

Useful list here:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/fictional%20country
though not all are necessarily on the rigth planet. (Does Middle Earth count, for instance?)
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userinfo garath_jj
2004/09/02 06:08:44
Elbonia. Can't not have Elbonia (Africa somewhere, I should imagine).
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userinfo fluffymormegil
2004/09/02 06:15:15
Eastern Europe, of course!
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userinfo met24
2004/09/02 06:09:48
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userinfo keirf
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2004/09/07 06:17:47
The two islands that constituted the nation of San Seriffe were named Upper Caisse and Lower Caisse...
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userinfo simont
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2004/09/02 06:10:26
Oh, and a couple that may or may not count. I'm uncertain about Burgundy from "Ash: A Secret History", since the whole point is that it doesn't exist in today's world; and then another dubious one is Poldovia.
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userinfo senji
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2004/09/02 06:12:24
Burgandy definitely did exist (in both 'real' and Ashian history).
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userinfo meirion
2004/09/02 07:03:50
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2004/09/02 07:06:04
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userinfo yrieithydd
2004/09/02 06:38:03
Belsornia -- From which Elisaveta of the Chalet School hies -- Somewhere between the Anschluss and the Soviet Union, near Mirania.

I don't recognise Mirania. But one can be a bit more precise on the location of Belsornia:
From The Princess of the Chalet School
'Beslornia?' Jo frowned fiercely as she tried to remember where Belsornia was.
'Yes; it is one of the smaller Balkan States, not far from the Italian border,' replied her sister.
(Chapter 3 An honour for the Chalet School, p. 35 in the Chambers Hardback edition of 1988)

I've got one for you for the Americas too. The land of Hi-Brasil as found in The Stolen Lake by Joan Aitken. Oh and Nantucket as an island somewhere of North America (from Night Birds on Nantucket by the same author).
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userinfo fluffymormegil
2004/09/02 06:46:15
Nantucket Island, MA is as real a place as the Isle of Man or the Isle of Wight.
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userinfo yrieithydd
2004/09/02 07:08:01
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userinfo pavanne
2004/09/02 14:07:36
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userinfo yrieithydd
2004/09/02 14:29:58
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userinfo the_aviator
2004/09/02 06:54:46
Don't forget Molvania!
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userinfo acronym
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2004/09/02 09:24:57
If you're doing parallel realities, there have to be a few in "Northern Lights"; for that matter, Norlonto and the other city-states of Ken MacLeod's "The Star Fraction" (and the ISTWR, for that matter).
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userinfo king_of_wrong
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2004/09/02 10:56:37
The Grand Duchy of Cagliostro

(The smallest nation in the UN, with only 3500 citizens...)
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userinfo mooism
2004/09/02 11:29:09
Brazil, an ancient Irish mythical land.
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userinfo yrieithydd
2004/09/02 14:35:04
It was on this myth, I believe, that Joan Aitken was working with Hy Brasil (as I mentioned above) although I suspect hers is sufficiently developed from it to count as a separate entity. I always felt it was a cross between the Irish myth and the South American country.
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userinfo claroscuro
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2004/09/02 13:34:58
christopher stasheff is worth a mention, even if the series if about eight books too long. i really cant rememebr all of them, but merovence and allustria are a decent start
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userinfo ewx
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2004/09/03 01:23:32
_The Years Of Rice And Salt_ would be another good source of fictional places, albeit all of them occupying the same locations as real ones.
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